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Author Topic: Karate Stances - Strikes and Vital Points  (Read 2160 times)
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« on: August 17, 2007, 01:25:07 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 05:56:59 AM »

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Thanks for the pic.  Here it is again so people can see it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 06:00:57 PM »

who out there can tell us how and when to use these above points? for example the shin point is used to stop the forward motion of an attack. the best weapon is a front snaped heel kick.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2007, 02:30:51 PM »

I know this is a month old, but I'm just checking our all the categories.  What is the actual question about the stances and points?  In your example, is the shin used to stop forward motion of a kick?  Did I understand that right?

There are alot of points on this diagram to choose from.  Can you give an example of an attack?

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 06:48:28 PM »

In the example of stopping a forward attack by using the shin point. You could use a quick snap kick to that point of the attacker. I have used this point successfully. It pretty much will stop completly the forward motion of that leg.

In fact the opponents lower leg turned almost completely black and blue from this strike.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 10:35:18 PM »

Oh, yeah, I agree about the front snap kick.  I understood the statement to say block the kick with your shin.  Who in the world would do that?  LIke you said next, it turned black and blue from the attack.  Lucky it's not broken.

masterlambert posted "who out there can tell us how and when to use these above points?"  The example given only tells us to kick the shin.  So I guess my question is do you want to hear where and how to kick the shin?  If that's the case, I personnaly would kick to the inside or outside of the shin, so as not to injure my foot.  Sp6 (inside) is awesome, hurts like crazy, and will leave a beautiful black and blue reminder! Ki9 (inside) OUCH! GB 35 (outside) works great if you are going to finish by moving up the body, perhapse GB24 or 25, then the knock out strike to just about any GB point on the side of the head.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2007, 06:45:18 PM »

All good suggestions. Have any ideas for any of the other points shown?
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2007, 08:31:26 PM »

Awesome---------

Midsection points are my personal favs!

Attacker grabs your lapel or collar with his left, is gonna punch right.  Upward strike his punch with your left fist to Lu6.  Keep a hold of that punching arm.  At the same time, step in with your right foot and turn counter clockwise and twist slightly at the shoulder, this will release his grip. While you are moving counter clockwise, elbow to St21,22 or 23.  Pull his punching arm to stretch him out, and using same elbow, strike Sp16.  He might just collapse enough to bring his head right into the picture......might as well hit it!  After the elbow, using the same arm, backfist St4.  Then move quickly, he might throw up.  I've not seen the throwing up part, but when I was on the recieving end of this, I felt like I might.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 08:22:45 PM »

About the shin point, this is the very next article on pp the name of the point is called Muyo bone point. along with explaining some what about how pp works don't miss this article, it is a real bomb. I will teach band new info, printed for the first time ever. you will get a much better understanding of how pp works. Now I am not a writer,  for me it take a lot of time. so be patience,o.k.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 11:31:20 PM »

I can be patient.  Besides the shin point, how did you like my use of points?  I'm a big girl, I can handle CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!  Could you give me another example of an attack?  I'd love to share the info. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2007, 05:57:36 PM »

Scott has the article now, he will put it up this week end then, after reading try to use it. if you have questions feel free to e-mail or  post O.K. e- mail is best since it is a personal question.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2007, 01:23:17 PM »

who out there can tell us how and when to use these above points? for example the shin point is used to stop the forward motion of an attack. the best weapon is a front snaped heel kick.

The Shin point, because of its picture location - Could be ST-37, ST-38, or ST-39; I had to take a Person down, when i was a Body Guard I used a Side Snap kick Straight-in, the middle of the  front shin-bone, hitting ST-38, as I also Struck with my Fingers Down into the middle of his clavicle hitting ST-12 -- He droped like a Hot Potato Wink If I would have executed a downward "chop" kick, i would have struck all of the points that i have mentioned, causing some internal problems for the Guy Roll Eyes
Meaning, before you execute ANY PRESSURE POINT Technique on Anyone - You SHOULD LEARN what the Internal Damage a particular pressure point does.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2007, 06:08:25 PM »

Hi tom, good uses of that presure point. I have in the past worked for a company on the east coast my self. And I have used the kick to the front of the shin many times when an attacker charges,It is not a real pp, but effects the nerves coming out of the tibia it self. The pp I just wrote about, is a kick to the inside of the leg which has deeper implications. Jule posted above the, (inside shin)  I believe is at least one of the two points, I wrote about. if you can, write use about the job, I thing it might help the students to capture the real feel of an attack, but I know in some cases you may not be able to talk so much. but thanks for your input.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2007, 08:28:20 AM »

Hi tom, good uses of that presure point. I have in the past worked for a company on the east coast my self. And I have used the kick to the front of the shin many times when an attacker charges,It is not a real pp, but effects the nerves coming out of the tibia it self. The pp I just wrote about, is a kick to the inside of the leg which has deeper implications. Jule posted above the, (inside shin)  I believe is at least one of the two points, I wrote about. if you can, write use about the job, I thing it might help the students to capture the real feel of an attack, but I know in some cases you may not be able to talk so much. but thanks for your input.

Thank you for your responce Smiley  As you well know - The more points that you know, the more choices you have in a self-defense situation! In our training, we specialized in the use of a few points that were Street Worthy, and SP-6 on the lower inside leg was one of them Wink Seeing that you have done this type of work also, you know - One of the greatest Fears that we had, was being charged for excessive force.
Anyway, back to SP-6. I was grabbed by the front of my jacket, the attacker wanted to throw me to the side, so that he could spray acid on my principal - I Struck ST-5 lightly and Executed a "Straight-in" Hard Side/snap kick too SP-6 > Now, my kick could have struck into LIV-5, I'm not sure - except the Guy was unable to get up on his feet, and was in Extreme Pain - We were able to control him untill our friends, the police arrived.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 07:41:28 PM »

On the ground of what you spoke of, Moving out side the attack, first striking st#5( corner of the jaw) then striking the opposite leg probably liv#6 between the hours of 1am To 3 am, possibly. Liv #6 using the heel, in a dwonwards( sliding motion), effect; numbness, Possible K.o, senslessness..
 First strikeing high and then low has greater effect but crossing first strike high and then low- crossing even more so. But if you hit liv # 5 the effect is lesser than #6 but with the high-low and the crossing, that is what may have possibly happened. Did you step out side, perry the attackers arm and strike with the same arm? and if so was the st#5 strike light? and the bigger question is were you surprized ? These questions are all common to the out come.
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