Thank for  info   masterlambert
I was just  trying to be breif with  horary (shichen) points  that would be lot of info to type  I have no problem with somebody make up thir own kata .mabee on some kata you get beter benefit practing them at certain time of the day but  however you can practiced them any time of the day
I think pauljosh  was  looking for ( horary  cycle karate  kata)
Ps  sometime I have trouble wording my post too
Thanks  TYR

that is a tough question to answer. From the point of 35 mm film we have a record of many forms and kata. before that time we have no documented proof other than the word of masters, and they all differ. The old drawings and scripts lets us know little about kata. and what they did, well from there, your guess is as good as mine. In some cases, the old drawing inlighten use some what, As a whole finding a form (kata) learning what you can from the masters, is a good start. But practice and think ability will tell use the most. And thats the sad facts. I think that only by looking at old footage and learning the movements and a never end mind set of " what else can this movement do" is the only teacher worth his salt.

Im short, If Kata is alive it will grow! Same thing with a System of fighting. As information on any subject become easyer to gather, and the mystery's are unlock, we can come down to a better bottom line. The same is true with Kata amd systems. I Know this is not going to be a popular answer, but it the only one I have.

                                    HAPPY HO HO to all.
                                    L.P.Lambert.

Tom I do have a copy of the Mc Carthy Bubishi as well as the other authors, who wrote on that subject. I thing that there is room for another version, one that will be clearer and more understandable. Who knows, maybe after I finish all points, which I wish to place on this web site, I may try to expand and make understand that old document. As all other charts and documrnts the strike, techniques and methods or missing. and they are the most needed property for the study and practice of any and all points.

Well, it looks like there isn't going to be any more then the 5 that are responding to this forum , so, i'm also going to just fade away
Good By and Good Luck 

Hello Scott; There is absolutely No Reason For YOU to feel that you have a Need to Apologize To Me, or ANY Other Person that reads this Forum Now, having said that - Yes, I have been filming myself, and being Bran-New at it, im now trying to figure out how to copy on a CD, or a DVD Yes, there was a program that came along with this camera, but so far, I have been just to STUPID too figure it all out - I Do Have a Practice film that is now inside my computer - and i have tried to e-mail the film to a friend, so far - And I Do Not Know Why, but - i'm being toled that the film is to large ect, ect,. I'm going to have to have some computer guy to come to my home and show me how 
You Will Get It - I have had too double up on my Meds, to get through this    This is good though, cause ive always been a loner, and i have found that i'm a little camera shy when its focused On Just Me and I do plan on placing "Nonaka Ryu Ju-jutsu" on Film too pass it along too my Grandchildren, so this does give me time too get over being shy

Also, I have asked about the  p.p.'s that are with in your hard style kata's, as do they have any type of pattern? Now, of course the more points that you know, the more variations of a movement can be made ect, ect,. What i'm interested in is, for exemple; I understand that You know "Taikyoku - shodan, nidan, and sandan" Now, if you were taught the "kyusho", Was there a Progression of "Kyusho" as you studied them And, also to clear the air, i'm not interested in this knowledge too learn = I have Enough on my plate I'm just curious as to how kyusho was taught using your kata

Hi Tom
Im finally finished with my Company office move so I should have some more time to spend back on the forum,

Let me try to answer some of your questions.
As far as my kata goes.  My initial though process was to put together some of my favorite moves (by favorite I mean techniques that work very well for me. they may not work for everyone) once I put together a nicley flowing kata I then went back and experimented with the various points that were targets of the strikes.  I must admit that the kata currently does not look like it did when I first created it because I have changed things around quite a bit to make it work better.

Currently I am not applying the points to the 5 element theory but I may decide to do that once I consider the kata to be in its final state.

Hope this answers some of the questions.

I realize that there arent too many people posting these days.  If you have any good ideas on how to get more visitors please let us know...

I was thinking of running some kind of contest. What do you think?

Scott

Thats kind of where I was headed with that strike myself. It just seems to be the natural feel of that that technique.

Thanks Tom