Sensei Odo and Oyata train in okinawa  under Shigeru Nakamura Who founded the Okinawa kenpo karate.  Odo also stuided kobudo  with Matayoshi . Oyata moved to america change the name of what he taught to Ryukyu kenpo. Why living in okinawa odo change his to Okinwan kenpo karate kobudo.for he passed away odo renamed his system to Ryukyu hon kenpo kobudo   

Tom thank for your vote, But I want every one to understand that G.D. and his clone's, will not stop K.O.ing there students for three reasons, 1, Money, 2,practice dumbs, 3, lack of moral fiber. I write my articles not to people that teach points by way of K.O. they will never change. I write to warn new comes that there are safe ways to learn pp and there are instructors out there that will not put your lifes at risk. and they do siminars all over the world too. SEE THEM for instruction, why should the new student but his or her health at risk. That is what this web site is all about. Thanks Tom for caring. It's past time for martial artist to speak out again this ill practice, thats what this site is about.

George Dillman got his pressure point from Oyata  not Hohan soken what little that he know .  Oyata did not teach him all of his pressure points I do not beleive that hohan soken had the knowledge of pressure point of oyata.   Oyata was one of the first person in the usa to teach the pressure points.Dillman and Oyata had a fallen out  early. Dillman may have made some of his on theory by now he may have got a basic pressure point chart from Hohan Soken. I have seen a chart that was suppose to be the same chart.It didnt have much info on it at all.

Thank You for clearing that up for me I do not know anything about those Masters that you have mentioned Cause i'm not a hard style person - I have studied (Shotokan), and (TKD) when i was real young, but did not like it, because they would not teach me the Kyusho that was sopposed to be in their style I already knew that the Kyusho was there, but i don't think that They knew any of it
Anyway - When dillman stated that he had been behind closed door's,learning from some Masters - I just had to laugh that joke off, cause what True Master would even give dillman the time of day, especially, if they knew that dillman had a very large Ego And whare does he come off saying he is a Grand Master - He gave that too him self!

The only thing that i give him credit for is his knowledge of p.p.!
Have you seen Him on the youtube, saying that he can disrupt your energy from a long distance away And, also stating that he plays with customers at a  Walmart Store Fist of all, its total BS I just do not understand how anybody can fall for S*** like that!
But, then again (There was Jones Town), where they even killed themselves for One Man's BS! So, I gess there are people out there that just don't have the Brains at all!

tyr, Master Oyata's Kata are very close to the Shorin Ryu kata. Oyata'a Dillmans are very different. Dillman mostly strikes double points Oyata mostly singlar points. Oyata's Naihanchi is very different from Dillmans. so I see no evidents that Dillman was a Student under Oyata. But I will tell you a story that came to me from another Mater, That Dillman promised Oyata that if he would teach him what he knew about pressure points, That he would help Oyata promote him to the public. Oyata agreed, and showed Dillman what he new of the points then Dillman  ditched Oyata. That may be the reason Dillman got upset. I don't know if it is the truth or not. But It makes some scents If he wouldn't talk about it. I know, I do know some things about Dillman and Sokon is true, because Dillman told me personally himself and I was at the same seminars When Sokon came to Amarica which Dillman attended! The differents there was I was a student of Sokon's system Dillman wasn't. As for Dillman style or system, I don't know what it is. I think it is a mix of Kara te style and kata. All basic level and some scrap of advanced. I say this because he is stuck in application or techniques but never teachs on the advanced levels! example, Naihanchi Shodan is about the kinds of techniques (hand and foot forms) that work best when using a Naihanchi (horse) stance. which is studied at the advanced level. Dillman teachs that," its all in the hands". "Wrong", after you learn the hand and feet tech, stance understanding makes the real differents! Most of the world will not understand what I just said, I hope you do. What stance is used to defeat what stance and what hand & foot tech do you use with each stance. that is a large part of advanced study. There are very few shcools that teach this, but there student are very hard to deal with. Oyata is for real evry body who has studyed under him, know that. He is feared and respected by all his students. I think Oyata may have learn a lesson from Dillman, if that story is true. the Old ways are best! Don't get me wrong, I have the highest respect for Oyata, He is well known and respected by the old school. Stick to old policy Master Oyata and forget U.S. princibles.

Hi

FYI both Erle montaigue and rick clark got their first taste of pressure points off GD.

I remember Erle in the early 1990's doing a series of articles for English magazines where he told the story of the seminars he went on with George.

Erle claimed that GD was faking because you cant use pressure points for fighting.

If you see Montaigues books before he met George I have one there is no mention of PP's and his applications were based loosely on wrestling which is what he is, an ex wrestler.

However a few years later he comes out with his death point striking book in which he not only believes in pressure points, he is now a master of them, and even more bizzarely claims he was a master before he met GD.


Those of us that read those articles never took him seriously again.

I guess those of you that believe Erle didnt know of him back then.

Rick clark was a dillman student pure and simple hes in most of the books.

I learn from who I can but I always credit them for it.

A lot of ppl who got into kyusho or pp's because of george or his students dont.

Sure he doesnt know it  all never claims it when I train with him but he put pp's back on a  lot of MA's agenda.

Plus there is a lot of misinformation about him like the guy above who says GD says naihanchi is all about the hands, you are wrong, he emphasises the feet in all katas especially this one.

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