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Author Topic: So what does everyone think of George Dillmans theories?  (Read 2463 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 09:34:09 PM »

I'm not getting wet, and it's not raining.  No offense intended, but I don't understand.  Sorry.

I have watched Grand Master Dillman knock people out ALOT.  Yes, it's cool, no it doesn't cause medical conditions later in life.  Boxers suffer medical conditions for taking too many shots to the head.  Like 10 - 20 per match.  Dillman doesn't knock out the same person 20 times on a regular basis.  He has studied, along with many of his collegues, with Medical Doctors, Cardiologists, specialists in many fields FOR MANY MANY MANY YEARS.  He has studied extensively with Eastern Practitioners FOR MANY MANY MANY YEARS.  He will never know everything there is to know, no one will.  But he studies ALL THE TIME.  He tests alot of theories with MD's present.  I have been to seminars and watched him do it.

Now, just tapping a point to see the reaction, that's the way to start.  We teach our students that way.  Yes, just touching a point might hurt a little.  Then leave it alone!  Yes, tap a different one lightly and you may see sparks and stumble a little.  Then leave it alone! As instructors, we follow with restoration.  We teach with CONSTANT SUPERVISION!  We don't beat the hell out of each other, we experiment, with caution.  I have very active pressure points.  Just touching them, usually hurts pretty bad.  Some of my meridians are more active than others.  I JUST DON'T WORK THEM VERY MUCH!  Just like when you tell the Doctor "it hurts when I do this" and he says "then don't do that".  Get it?  I mean no disrespect to anyone who questions Grand Master Dillman's theories or think it's not valid.  You are all entitled to your opinions.  But don't just read his books.  Look for DKI schools, attend his seminars.  Not just one or two, he has different subjects and different collegues at each one.   If you have an open mind and are willing to open it to his theories, you will understand.  Not all at once.  Not in a month or a year, it's ONGOING.  And alot of fun!

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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 11:29:40 AM »

good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 01:10:22 PM »

A 3 day camp in Reading, PA is $250, includes lodging, meals, and a really good time.  There are alot of grand masters who teach alot of theories.  They are there to help you, the student, make sure you are executing the technique properly.  It's a pretty intense 3 days.

A 1 day seminar is generally 5 or 6 hours, and costs about $50.  Again, he has other grand masters teaching as well, again, helping the students. 

So I probably spend around $800 - $1000 per year for very valuable information, and Southwest Airlines has the best airfare deals.  Cheaper than gas.  It's all tax deductable!!!!!
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2007, 09:24:22 PM »

Of course the video clips are entertaining...........any lay person can see how cool it is to knock someone out.  However................

He doesn't just knock out still targets.  Uke's throw out punches and strikes at full force.  To learn, you have to start by tapping or touching points.  Obviously on a still target.  Then you increase to more intense striking and a slowly moving target.  Then you increase again.  Same with wrist locks and finger locks.  Start with small amounts of pressure and work your way up.  This isn't something GM Dillman threw together to thrill people.  He studies (and trains) with doctors and specialists in the US and Eastern countries.  Has been for MANY YEARS.  HE KNOWS HIS STUFF.  I'm not trying to sell him to you, and I agree that some of his books are a bit complicated, but to a trained artist, it's not that complicated.  Break it down, movement by movement, strike by strike, then add on as you learn.  There is ssooooo much out there, keep an open mind.  Don't just check out video clips or read books.  Get out there to seminars.  Meet people, Grand Masters and higher level instructors are more that eager to help you, they are not walk on water invincible beings. Yeah, a little costly, but you don't have to go to every one.  I hope to see you at one soon!
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2007, 05:11:51 PM »

I like some of Dillman theories, but on some of  the video I think some  of his student are not get ko they are just acting like they are get ko falling down. I have  attend some of his  seminar
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2007, 05:16:31 PM »

My  sensei  knocked out this one guy we thought guy about died he turned  purple  we had a nurse their  too  we  finaly got  him  back
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2007, 06:50:57 PM »

My point is, any vital point struck Once, has some effect and when you strike it twice the effect become stronger strike it a multiple of times the effect becomes even greater. everybody knows that. Now when some one is K.O-ed there is damage each and every time because of the body shuting down along with the engery.  the point will heal on the outside and probably on the inside but the collateral damage will multipi till a unreturnable state is reached over a period of mounths and years,then you will become permenet ill. If you don't believe me ask your doctor or better still, call an acupunture doctor. and if you go back to the do jo and practice a technique over and over again You will with out dout have illness later on in life. THAT is my only problem with the Dillman-ites Before you go on to pratice in this way contact a doctor and see if you are doing more harm than good. I chalenge you to do so, and tell us all what the doctor tell you.

P.S I am sorry that I am so hung up on this point, But I personal know of a death of a freind who practiced this way. He dead two days after going to a seminar when he and his practice partner practice a strike to stomach # 9 over and over again! I don't won't it to happen to you.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2007, 07:20:48 PM »

I  also think he money hungry. Ko is simlar to a small stroke. but also dont beleive he knock out all those people in those videos they are pretending to be ko
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2007, 08:04:05 PM »

TVR....

Ever been to one of his seminars?
KO is nothing remotely close to a stroke.
Money hungry?  Aren't we all in this biz to make money?
I'm not trying to recruit you, you should really read and study some of his stuff, not just watch a video.  And if you watched a video, he explained the technique as he did it.  He didn't just decide to show off and KO people.  He has studied for many years with doctors and specialists worldwide. 
JUst come to a seminar, get KO'd.  We'll make a believer out of you!!!

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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2007, 06:53:04 AM »

I have been involved in the Soft Arts for50 Years now - I'm the AnShu(gate keeper) of Nonaka Ryu Ju-jutsu - A Blending of Traditional Aikido, and Kyusho Methods.
I used too Respect "Master" Dillman, I only was against him, because he would KO his Students, and thats Not Good!!!
When we practice a Kyusho method - all that was necessary was too just Dizzy Them, and their Imagination would come into play!
 I lost Respect for Dillman, when he started telling people that he Could disrupt your Energy from 6 Feet, or more away from you!!!



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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2007, 11:52:19 AM »

Dillman only KO people who want to be.  They volunteer.  I can also tell you, that he does'nt ko everyone.  Incapacitation.  That's enough to defend yourself.  Just enough to get away from your attacker and get help.  He is highly trained in the healing arts as well.  I watched the "6 foot chi disruption" with my own eyes.  Along with the eyes of over a dozen M.D.'s, accupunturists, cardiologists, and EMT's.  The guys were hooked up to all kinds of monitors.  THe doctors checked them out before and after.  Everyone's OK.  He doesn't hurt anyone in his demonstrations.  I don't have as many years under my belt as you, no where close, but, I have trained with him for a long time.  I know alot more than I thought I ever would.  I'm thankful to him for that.  My mind is open to other styles, I've checked some out, practiced with other instructors, but I haven't been impressed.  Not that yours is wrong, I'm not saying that.  I guess this is what makes the world go around, right?
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2007, 12:56:37 PM »

TYR, I will answer your questions: One; In the process of mastery of an art first we try to learn how to strike as hard as possible then after 20 year of that, we become very acurate and the strikes soften, and become faster and lighter. When my time came, I could then do partial K.O. with just a tap. Then one student noticed that one or two of the other students, went down much to easly to be real. He asked if I thought it was psyological. I really didn't notice it but we experimented with it by striking inaccurately at the intended target point. That is when I first realized that when an instructor stikes a point, and there is little to no reaction, the instructor will strike a second or third or fouth time out of frustation. This is at lest unpleasent to the student getting hit over and over again. Now some of the student would K.O. no matter how they got hit, some wouldn't. I think that the ones that did, would made a deep subconcous pyological determination to go out based on there own weakness.and the key to know whats what is in the way they drop to the ground. IT IS natural to try not to go down ( note boxing).

 Two; Martial arts, was and never will be about money, but in the good old U.S.A, the Ronald Mc Donald school of fast foot martial art. is king. I have never seen a great fighting student come from a big ( black belt in 3 years) school. they may have 400 students or thre or four schools But the worlds greatest fighter never came out of them. the Great ones have always come out of the smaller schools. Why, because the general public will not spend the time needed to become great, so they go to a fast food martial arts program that can give them some scents of security. And you know that to give the public what they want will always be worth money, its the Amarican way right! Name one great master that came out of a big school?
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2007, 04:57:59 PM »

I  have been to a Dillman seminar. I like some of Dillman theories I believe in pressure point and the ko. Our school has alway messed around with pressure point. but in some dillman film ,example he ko Bill Burch he laying on ground  with a goofy look with a smile on his face. My opionion is  that Oyata is a lot smoother when he ko some body.No  i am not a student of Oyata I know their is feud  with Oyata and Dillman .Just as their was feud with Oyata and Odo.My system branch off from odo
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2007, 05:14:07 PM »

I  also think he money hungry. Ko is simlar to a small stroke. but also dont beleive he knock out all those people in those videos they are pretending to be ko

Im glad I am not the only one who thinks this. I have seen many KOs.
Some do appear more real than others but there are some that look outright staged to me.
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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2007, 01:51:40 AM »

Oyata, It's to bad he isn't the showman dillman is, because he is "Ichi bon" if you know what I mean. one tap good by. He has tried to make dvd's and they are very good too, but he has poor marketing skills in his organization and he really doen't want to teach that way, and as far as Kata and weapons,top of the heep. Dillman I beleive has taken lessons from Oyata, did you know that.
 Odo sensei I don't know of, but I think Iv'e heard of him, tell me more about Odo sensei.
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