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« on: September 05, 2007, 05:40:41 PM »

So what does everyone think of George Dillmans theories?

Lets try to keep this clean please Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 10:57:38 AM »

Well sir,
IMHO is,that some of the stuff,that Mr.Dillman teaches is actually pretty good,and can be used in the real life situation...and some of the stuff is purely for the demonstration purposes only.
Any toughts gentlemen!? Smiley


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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 12:08:51 PM »

I beleive that many of the pressure points he shows are very valid but the ways he uses to demonstrate them can not be used in a real fight.

In an acutal situation the attacker will not be standing still giving you enough time to properly line up and execute a technique.

I would like to see if he can hit those points against someone who is trying not to be hit.

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 01:04:44 PM »

I agree with you sir,it´s one thing to do a technique to someone,who just stands there,than someone who is coming after you.However,I believe,that Mr.Dillman does teach correct way to attack those points after the students reach certain level.I know this,becouse I personally know someone,who use to be in DKI,and hes skills are great.
I have huge respect for Mr.Dillman,becouse he has a respectfull martial ars correa behind him,but I have to be honest,I dont agree some of the stuff he do or teaches to hes students.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 07:07:15 PM »

Mika J
Were you a student of his style?

I am not saying that he cant do it but I guess I am saying that I havent seen it personally.

I agree that some of his teaching arnt the best. Seeing how he knocks out most of his students in his video clips, I would bet money that most of those students will have various health problems later in life.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 03:20:45 AM »

Sir,my gnowledge from ryukyu kempo comes from GM Toni Kauhanen,who use to be DKI guy.GM Kauhanen is the head of the ryukyu kempo Finland,and founder of kyusho aikijutsu system along with Raine luukkonen,who is one of the top students of Mr.Kauhanen.
I never was a part of this organisation(DKI)like GM Kauhanen did...however,after I had been training several times with Kauhanen ,I can say,that Dilman does teach proper way to use this knowledge.
And when I say proper,I dont mean the ko´s,that we all have seen several times,rather the way those points are been activated and used against someone,who actually is coming after you.

And I agree with you,that knocking your student constantly out is not smart thing to do,besides this whole ko.thing is just a small part of this wondrfull art,that we are into.I think,that someone,who is studying this art,should look wider,rather than just consentrade doing ko´s.

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2007, 09:07:56 PM »

     I have one of his books and just started reading it.  It seems a little complicated, but appears to be sound on what I have read so far.  I have not read a lot of his work, but have glanced over his website.  To say the least, I find whats there (under the video samples) to be enough to peak my interest.  I would be interested in what the rest of you think. From what it said at the top of this post, "Keep it clean" it does not appear that his ideas are popular.  Let me know, I have just started researching this topic.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 09:24:52 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 06:43:26 AM »

     I have one of his books and just started reading it.  It seems a little complicated, but appears to be sound on what I have read so far.  I have not read a lot of his work, but have glanced over his website.  To say the least, I find whats there (under the video samples) to be enough to peak my interest.  I would be interested in what the rest of you think. From what it said at the top of this post, "Keep it clean" it does not appear that his ideas are popular.  Let me know, I have just started researching this topic.

Joe The reason I said "keep it clean" is that there are some that have very strong opinions on his teachings and I did not want to start a flame war here.

Although his video clips are entertaining to watch it is very dangerous to the students he is knocking out.   You can just as well tell if a pressure point is working by pressing and perhaps lightly hitting to see the reactions. You do not need to always knock the other person to know that it works.

Scott

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 07:37:55 AM »

Yes,Scott is absolutely right,You dont have to strike enyone down,just to see,if this stuff really works.If you are practising points,that you know,that will knock your partner out,then slitely tab on that point,and see,what happens.If you have somekind of reaction,that is enough.

And what comes to Dillmans books,well...I have read those books,and my opinion is,that there are much better books out there.Have you tryed Erle montaigues books,or Rick Clarks books...I find those books wery good and easy to follow.
Best way to learn,is,that you found yourself a good instruktor,that can lead you safely thru your studyes.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 09:54:36 AM »

 Next time you go to your doctors office, ask him this, if a person is knock out, for a period of one minute is there any permanent damage?Huh?? Then you can look up the record by way of the state box commission to find out the condition of those boxers who have been knock out 30 or more times! Do the math, knock out are unsafe. that is why Dillman, When a student is out FOR more that 15 seconds he then gets feverish to revive them. Any first year Med student can tell you,

     KNOCK OUT ARE NOT SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2007, 10:19:58 AM »

As I mentioned and Scott and GM Lambert too stated,you dont need to ko enyone out.It's not safe and totally unnecessary not to mentioned foolish.
If the master,lets say like GM Lambert say"this point will take you out"it will...trust him.You dont have to do it to actually see,does this or that point really do the job.However,you can practise those points like I said,just slitely hit those points to be sure,you have that proper reaction,that is enough.

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 10:04:00 PM »

So what does everyone think of George Dillmans theories?

Lets try to keep this clean please Smiley

I have been studying with Grand Master Dillman for 7 years, when I first started training in martial arts.  His theories are 100% proven and effective.  People who question his theories should just attend his seminars, he has them all over the world, all the time.  I attend two 3 day camps each year and 5 or 6 1 day seminars.  Yes, they are sometimes repetitive, but that's how students learn.  I have been instructed in pressure points from day 1, as a white belt.  Now 7 years later, as a Black belt, I am confident about when and how to use them.  He will be in Portage, IN on December 1.  I encourage all martial artists in the area to attend.  So, what do I think of George Dillman's theories?  They are the best theories a martial artist should study and learn.  I am 1 of 3 or 4 women in my school, so I train with men.  Really big ones.  Pound for pound, I could never stop one of them from an attack, standing or pinned down.  The laws of physics will not allow my 125 pound body to lift or move someone double my weight or more.  Using pressure points, I get them off of me in very little time, without wasting precious energy.  Remember the old saying "the bigger they are, the harder they fall"?  The person who quoted that must have been one of Grand Master Dillman's students. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 05:25:53 PM »

there is no question that Dillman has command of many presure point and that many of his teachings are sound BUT have you used them in an out and out combat situation I mean out and out not Do Jo practice I think not! two tell us all how much do you and all the other students pay to learn, give use an average total please. Im glade you think it was worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2007, 06:26:12 PM »

Just becouse your getting wet does not mean it is raining out.
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